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joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@mahoneychris17 NO, Lucifer was good to begin with, or God would not have made him one of the ranking arch angels - along with Michael and Gabriel. The Bible says that iniquity was FOUND in Lucifer. To me that means that it came from an outside source - which the Bible doesn't reveal to us.
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@FanshiiKingyo God takes evil which the devil brings on us and turns it into something to benefit us - IF we will just trust Him!
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@FanshiiKingyo Your argument is sound, but the Bible doesn't tell us how or why "iniquity" was found in Lucifer. So we really don't know how it happened. We can only speculate. It doesn't make sense that God, who the Bible says IS love - the very essence of love - would create evil to purposely torment us to make us stronger. Tormenting a child drives him away, right! No, I believe God took evil and made the best out of it. The devil brings all the evil to the world, not God.
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@FanshiiKingyo ABSOLUTELY!
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@zzyzxDUFFY Believe me, you probably have several demons attached to you right now! Why add more by inviting them via a ouija board???
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@GolfWhiskeySierra What you say only applies to truly Born Again Christians! Unbelievers don't get tested, they bring it all on themselves through unforgiven sin!
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Naturallyskeptic If God gives you the ability you might see several latched on to you!
joel10000a (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Naturallyskeptic You wanna bet? Look in the mirror!!
awesomeallykat90 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Amen. I am happy to hear that God saved you!
zzyzxDUFFY (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@joel10000a I'll do it when I'm old and depressed anyway, then see what comes of it :)
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